Illinois School for the Visually Impaired

658 East State Street • Jacksonville, Illinois  62650-2130
Toll Free: 800-919-5617 • Voice: 217-479-4400 • TTY: 217-479-4415 • Fax: 217-479-4479
www.isvi.net • E-mail: ISVI


          About Us
Vision for the Future
Who to Contact

           General
       Information
Admissions
Advisory Council
Campus Tour
Directions to ISVI
Facts About ISVI
Human Resources

Maps
Mission & Objectives
Prospective Students

           News
ISVI Happenings
Online With ISVI
Tech Tips

       Calendars
Annual
Weekly

     Student Meal
           Menu

Supplying Treats for Students

Weekly Menu

          Parents
Parents Need to Know
Tips For Parents
Who to Contact

                                     

 Illinois School for the Visually Impaired
Advisory Council Meeting
Summary Notes
October 23, 2009

Present:  Dr. Michael Zost, Dr. Derrald Taylor, Trudy Diepholz, Sharon Wimmer, Lisa McDaniel, Jeff Schulte, Kelsey Thompson, Richard Schrumpf, William Bielawski, Amy Grau, Howard Thomas

Absent:   Chris Clark-Bischke, Tomeka Clark, Araceli Avina

Guests:  Grace Hou, Robert Kilbury, Francisco Alvarado, Reggie Clinton, Janet
  McGovern, Paul Drake, Jane Breen, Todd Williams, Marsha Schoth, Flora
  Dennison, Janice Thomas

I.    Roll Call/Introductions/Approval of Minutes/Adoption of Agenda

Dr. Zost, Chairperson, called the meeting to order.  Each person who was present introduced himself or herself.  Dr. Zost welcomed Grace Hou to the Advisory meeting.

Members were asked to review the minutes from the September 2009 meeting for any changes or additions.  Mr. Bielawski noted that the date should be changed to reflect September 18, 2009.  Mr. Bielawski also requested a correction to be made under item # 1.  Corrections were noted and made.  A motion and second was made to accept changes to the minutes.

II.   New Business  (these notes will follow the flow of conversation)

Meeting with Grace Hou and staff about concerns for ISVI:

Ms. Hou thanked everyone for inviting her to this open discussion.  She would like everyone to know that she is always available to everyone.  Recently it has been a very stressful time due to the budget session.  We are looking at cuts across the entire State in fiscal year 2010.  There have been many programs that have been able to accessed the federal stimulus money.  DHS has decreased their headcount from 20,000 in 1997 to 12,000 in 2009.  DHS is not the only department struggling.  There have been delays in payments anywhere from three to five months.  We are all challenged to move forward in this trying time.  Ms. Hou has had the pleasure of working with new DHS Secretary Michelle Saddler.  She shows that she cares a great deal for human services.  In today's Journal Register, Ms. Hou referred to an article on Secretary Saddler.  Secretary Adams will be moving to South Africa as a liaison for the State of Illinois.  This has been her lifelong dream to move there.  Currently there have been administrative changes.  Michael Gelder who is the Director of Health Care policies is very involved with the disabilities programs.  We have many services that are covered under DHS but we also have funding problems at this point.

Ms. Hou asked if it's time to discuss the issue of where the school should be, and what agency it should fall under.

A Council member asked if all state budget funds were cut across the state, what viewpoint does the Governor has  about the Department of Human Services, and if this Governor is concerned with what happens to ISVI & ISD.

Ms. Hou said that this Governor's record shows he understands the value of what is needed.  He had to borrow to keep the State going.  However, we as a State need to review the cuts and impress upon the public the things the Department of Human Services can't provide and make hard decisions, to focus on core priorities and success based programs.  Dr. Zost stated that to support programs based on success, the school should continue to emphasize being a state-wide resource for educational services as in our mission statement.  Mr. Thomas wanted to know if it was the cost per student that is hurting ISVI.  When he attended ISVI there were 200 students.  He feels that sending students to their local school isn't necessarily better for them.  He asked if there a reason we can't get more students enrolled at ISVI?  There are a lot of students who are visually impaired in Illinois.

Ms. Hou wanted the advisory council to know that there has been a lot of conversation about where ISVI and ISD should be.  Dr. Zost noted that educational policies have changed and local schools are trying to address issues in their own setting.  ISVI is the least restrictive environment for many visually impaired students and we need to continue serving students.  It would be helpful if we had a survey of what graduates from ISVI are doing once they have left ISVI.

Ms. Hou wanted to know if ISVI could compare the outcomes of those students who have graduated from the School to the students who are in the public schools, and if we have seen an increase in academic scores.  Dr. Kilbury, Ms. Hou and Mr. Alvarado all agree that DHS wants ISVI to be in the best place that helps the students.  The question came up about what The Philip J. Rock Center and School was in Chicago?  This school is for deaf-blind students.  Mr. Thomas stated that blindness isn't the only disability that students have at ISVI.  Dr. Kilbury stated that there has been progress in the public schools for students with minor visual impairments.  At ISVI, they would get more services if we had to compare.  We should note that individuals or outcomes may differ.  Dr. Zost noted that the curriculum has changed with what is offered to visually impaired students today.  The technology issues have changed drastically.  Maybe our goal should be to look at having blind or visually impaired students rotate to through ISIV for a short period and then return to their local school district.  That way they can get all the new technology that is offered at ISVI.  Dr. Kilbury was in the hall and ran into a student touring ISVI.  He is interested in the 5th year program, which is needed once they have worked with their local school district to complete their education.  Ms. Grau stated that services at ISVI set us apart from their local schools.  ISVI offers technology programs, TLC daily living skills, vocational, and the 5th year program.  This sets us apart from other schools.  ISVI also has a library full of Braille books, which you can't find in the public schools.

Mrs. Breen reiterated that there are great programs at ISVI, but the public doesn’t know about us.  This is what we need to work on through getting the word out to all school districts.  Mr. Thomas asked about what kind of services a visually impaired student who was in a local school district would receive.  Mr. Clinton answered that a student might get an O & M educator twice a month or Braille several times a week for about 45 minutes.  This depends on what needs the student has and the case load of the VI educator.  Mr. Thomas doesn't see how this would be of help in the education of a student.  When they come to ISVI they get about 2 hours of Braille a day.  Ms. Diepholz states that in the IEP, parents are told about ISVI.  Mr. Williams states that in IEP's, the information given is the option for placement at ISVI.  This is on a need to know basis.  Public schools can't provide sports, recreation activities, or even the possibility to get work for these students.  Ms. Hou said there is only so much we can do.  We need to be proactive for ISVI.

Mr. Clinton explained that when we have tours, or a goal-ball meet, these kids want to know how they can become a student.  Ms. Hou wanted to know if there is a mailing list so information about ISVI can be sent out.  Mr. Clinton explained that we have tried this before with ISBE and they won't share the information and it would be costly.  Ms. Hou thought that DHS could provided the literature and pay for the postage and  send it out.  Mr. Bielawski states that the list of visually impaired children in Illinois is confidential and can't be released.  Dr. Taylor says there are 800 visually impaired students in the Chicago area.

Ms. Grau wanted to know about funding for ISVI summer camp.  This was cut due to funding last year and could possibly not even be held this year due to budget issues.  This is where we get many of our students.  Ms. Grau would like to see ISVI offer extended programs for summer school.  Ms. Hou says that DRS has already had a sit down about ISVI.  Mr. Alvarado would like to see a sub-committee be geared toward this aspect and meet with the Chicago Public Schools for outreach and to promote students with visual impairments.  Ms. Hou suggested said we need to get the information directly to the parents.  Dr. Zost says that the Chicago Public Schools state they don't need ISVI, but the question is where the 0-3 program receives their information.  Ms. Grau says she received her information from the pediatric opthalmologist.  She was given many resources through the doctor and The Hadley School for the Blind.

Ms. Hou went on to the second part of the agenda inquiring, where ISVI & ISD be housed in DHS?  Mr. Bielawski stated that he feels that ISVI should be under the direction of the governor.  Mr. Schulte, a parent, wanted to know why the message isn't getting out to families, and if we would be better off under ISBE.  Mr. Clinton stated that ISBE doesn't believe in residential schools, and if we would be funded by ISBE that this would kill our budget.  Ms. Grau wanted to know about going under Higher Ed., they are an entity of themselves.  Mr. Clinton stated we need to explore where we best fitted as a residential school.  ISVI follows public school rules, but we aren't a public school.  Ms. Hou stated that The Philip Rock School for the Blind is not considered a public school and they are under GRF funding.  Mrs. McGovern said that the Department of Corrections is their own school district.  Dr. Zost asked the Governor’s Chief of State, Jerome Stermer in August if it would be possible to be a charter school Mr. Stermer explained that under the Illinois Charter School Law in order to be our own charter school,  a school in our district would have to close down a school so funding could be transferred.  Mrs. McGovern said that The Department of Corrections is under a line item in the Department of Juvenile Justice and they have a specific code they are funded through.  Mr. Clinton explained that right now under DHS we have no approval to hire staff as everything has to go through MIS & CMS in order for the school to run.

Ms. Hou asked that we all think about the things that need to be improved on, where we want to go with the two schools, and what agency would work the best for the schools.  This is a very serious matter.  We need to make an assessment in a couple of weeks and how to approach the evaluation.  We need to try to do this right and not quickly just to solve the problem.  We need to look at other schools and how they are being operated.  Mrs. Breen agrees that we need to determine what agency we should be under.  We need to list our options.  Both Mrs. Breen & Mr. Clinton have done some research on this matter.  Ms. Hou would like for Mr. Clinton to send out an e-mail with his list of what to improve on and what is working for the school.  This will be used as the framework and would be part of the discussions.  Ms. Hou feels that there should be a representative from the Advisory Council and a state employee (Mr. Clinton) and work as a pair to approach other visually impaired schools and ask them five core questions.  She also would like us to reach out to the Superintendent from ISD and work together on this project.  The committee will be comprised of Dr. Zost, Ms. Grau, and Mr. Bielawski.  Ms. Hou wanted us to be aware that this not only affects ISVI but also ISD.  Mr. Thomas would like to see the superintendent be in control of hiring and have control of the school.  ISVI has been through so many Superintendents that this is probably the reason that they leave no control.
 

Replacing Educator Vacancies: Why the delay?

Ms. Grau asked about the educator positions that need to be filled.  Mr. Clinton stated that ISVI posted two educator positions and they have been offered to two applicants. One person accepted and the other person declined.  There was a person who came a day late for interviews and we have contacted her to be interviewed.  It is very hard to find applicants who have both special education certification and vision certification.  There is another position we are waiting on to be posted.  Ms. Hou asked for the EPAR number so she can get this processed sooner.  The personnel person is out, so Mr. Alvarado will contact Sherrie Bridges for the information.



What is DHS’s role to ensure it's employees are up-to-date with training to carry out their job (i.e., vision certification for teachers, Braille literacy courses, etc

Ms. Hou asked if there would be a way to mandate education staff to become vision certified.  Mr. Clinton explained we can not do this with present educators due to the fact they were grandfathered in when the Braille grievance was settled.  This would be a union issue if we were to pursue this with our current educators.  There is a possibility we can do this with new hires.  Dr. Taylor stated this should be a priority when hiring an educator.  Ms. Grau agreed.  Ms. Hou would like to have a discussion with our Labor Management group to explore this.  Ms. Wimmer stated that there is funding that can be sought to become vision certified.  There is federal grant money and courses on line.  Mr. Clinton explained that it would probably take a 2 to 3 year window to get vision certification on new hires.


Mr. Alvarado informed the council that there has been an EPAR recently approved for a Rehabilitation Counselor.  This person will be located at ISVI, but will also have other duties.  This has been in the works for some time so we are pleased to announce the progress.


What is the function of the DHS/ORS educational liaison for the Schools?

Mr. Alvarado supervises this position so he will address the issue.  Ms. Olson is the liaison for all three schools.  She works on policy, procedures, research, ISAC representative, grant applications and research, and responds to all DHS correspondence both inside the state agencies and outside.  There is one thing Ms. Olson has been working on since the beginning of the school year which is why ISVI has not received the Pepsi vending machine commission money.  ISVI in the past has received the Pepsi money, which funded our activity fund and with the past governor things changed.  Ms. Olson has been working on this daily.  Ms. Olson also secured a grant from Lowe's last year, which will be used to purchase outside furniture for an outside bistro.  An additional grant she is working on at this time that is for our students for the Lincoln museum field trip.

 

What is DHS’s view on disabilities?  Are all disabilities equal and require equal funding and support?

Ms. Grau stated that visual impairments is viewed as the smallest segment of the disabilities.  There is a small percentage of what is called the “vanilla-blind”, but if you look at the dual diagnosis (vision impairment in addition to at least one other disability), this is off the radar.  The question was asked, “Is DHS fighting to serve this population?”  Ms. Hou replied yes.  We can only advocate within our bureaucracy.  The Advisory Council can advocate statewide.  Ms. Hou will be meeting with the Governor's office and DHS today at 3:00pm to discuss many issues.
 

How does DHS determine what cuts will occur at the Schools, especially ISVI?  How can DHS be more active in searching out, or at least assisting with, grant opportunities for the agencies it serves (ISVI Summer Camp, Opening Doors – Parent/Infant Institute, etc…)? 

Dr. Zost asked if funding for the summer camp will be available this year.  Mr. Clinton explained at this point we need to know what cuts there will be and if we have money in the budget.  Ms. Hou said that we are to make the summer programs it part of the school year and build it into the base budget.  She will discuss this issue with the budget department of DHS.  We will have summer camp, per Ms. Hou.  Mr. Drake stated that he is working with a group that has a grant that would allow ISVI to hold a 6 week transition camp.  He has a meeting to discuss this further and will keep the Advisory Council updated.

Mr. Clinton explained that our Parent-Infant Program is funded by a grant from ISBE, which has been cut the last two years.  ISVI has adjusted to only having the camp three days and is planning on cutting it again this year to two days.

Ms. Hou thanked the Advisory Council for inviting her to this meeting.  This meeting has brought a lot of information her way and she is planning on talking this afternoon on a few subjects.  She will be in touch with Mr. Clinton on the results on the committees.  Please feel free to contact her with questions or problems.
 

Discussions after Ms. Hou left the meeting

Mr. Bielawski asked the Superintendent what agency he felt ISVI should report to.  Mr. Clinton explained that he is open for conversation and would be supportive to whatever is in the best interest of our students.  We have legislators that are very supportive of our school.  Things seemed to get worse when our last governor took office.  Dr. Taylor explained that he and Dr. Zost and a few members from both ISD met with the governor's Chief of Staff recently and he seems to be on board with changes need to be made at both schools.  Mr. Clinton stated that there are two things we need to remember; one is DHS is not our enemy, and number two is that we have their support on this on all levels.  What we need to do is create a list of what's good and what needs to be changed.  An option could be to stay where we are and create an educational division in DHS.  Ms. Diepolz agrees that DHS knows what ISVI is about.  Mr. Clinton explained that it could take a legislative act or executive order to change things, and we have the support of both.  We can't be afraid to make the moves since this is the future of ISVI and future students for both schools and the area.  Dr. Zost feels that since they have had direct contact with Ms. Hou things seem to be getting done much faster.
 

III.  Old Business: - Dr. Michael Zost

Next meeting with Senator Demuzio and Representative Watson

The next meeting is scheduled for December 11th at 10:00 a.m. in Unit 2 basement.  Dr. Zost will invite Senator Demuzio and Representative Watson along with a representative from the Bureau of Blind Services to the meeting.  Ms. Hou will be talking to Secretary Saddler and her staff to invite them to the next meeting also.
 

IV.  Adjournment

Motion was made to adjourn at 2:15 p.m. and there was a second made and accepted.

Back
 

         Education
Departmental Pages
Department References   
Guidance Corner
School News
Sports
Transition

      Residential
              Life

Programs
Recreation News
Recreational Schedule
Transition
Transportation

          Outreach
Birth to 3 Program
GATES
Low Vision Clinic
Opening Doors
   Conference

Summer Camps
Workshops & Seminars

        Resources
Additional Links
Assistive Technology
    Reference Guide

Site Map
Staff Directory
Vision Information
Website Visitors

                                         

Additional Links   Admissions   Advisory Council   Annual Calendar   Assistive Technology Reference Guide  Birth to 3 Program  Campus Tour   Directions to ISVI   Education Department References   Education Departmental Pages   Employment Opportunities   Facts About ISVI   GATES   Guidance Corner   Human Resources   ISVI Happenings   Low Vision Clinic   Maps   Mission & Objectives   Online With ISVI   Opening Doors Conference   Parents Need to Know   Prospective Students   Recreation News   Recreational Schedule   Requesting Campbell Soup Labels   Residential Programs   School News   Site Map   Sports   Staff Directory   Summer Camps   Tech Tips   Tips For Parents   Transition   Transportation   Virtual Experience of ISVI   Vision Information   Vision for the Future   Website Visitors   Weekly Calendar  Weekly Menu   Who to Contact   Workshops & Seminars